![]() So that should help put it into better perspective.īro what. I would bet a lot of you would agree with me, and I would go a step further and bet that most of you couldn't see Ali Jr even lasting more than a few seconds against Oliva. I think Katsumi vs Ali Jr would be a much better matchup, with a slight favorability towards Katsumi since the Sumo showing. Without his ultra mega punch, he is basically a faster Doppo. Since this punch has no feats against anyone, I am not going to assume it KO's Oliva. Presumably, Oliva is less durable than Pickle but would still be the closest in durability to him. His super sonic mega ultra punch did no damage to pickle and completely exploded his arm. Katsumi has made less real progress then people really think. Kaku Kaioh has also had no improvements since introductions and I don't think anyone would question whether Katsumi would beat him. While it is true that Oliva has made no progress in power since his introduction, he was also introduced as this S-tier near Yujiroesque character. He MAY be above any of these or all of them, we don't know. So that leaves 10, 11, and 12 as possibly Hanayama, Guevara, and Ali Jr BEFORE Katsumi putting him at 13th. He might STILL be above Katsumi just off of his limited showings, especially dodging Yujiro's kick when he said he wasn't going to hold back. If his hype statements hold up, he could be the number 10 spot.Īli Jr IS arguably the fastest character in the series after Yujiro and Baki with power capable of knocking out all but the highest tier tanks in a single hit. Guevara only lost to Oliva and we haven't seem him fight since. Scarface Gaiden feats put Hanayama SQUARELY and FIRMLY above Katsumi. But if you are doing that for him it's only fair to do that for others. Again, used on a jobber and it gives me the STRONG impression of a "fighting spirit" technique, whereby a stronger minded person completely ignores it.Įveryone wants to assume the absolute highest estimates of Katsumi's nebulous feats. ![]() Furthermore, I don't buy all the hype around this hitless blow people keep rambling about. If we assume they are all around the same level, that means Hanayama did just as well. ![]() Right alongside all the other cast involving in bodying the no name jobbers. He trains some, and we see him body a no name sumo jobber. So he get's Retsu's arm, which makes him slightly better defensively but does nothing at all to his total offensive power. It also doesn't show us really what was accomplished, we know you can inflict high pain with low injury with things like slaps, which is kind of what that felt like in terms of impact. Causing no injury, just pain, for permanent crippling is a bad deal. I don't care if he inflicted pain on pickle, he exploded his entire arm and permanently (barring deus ex machina) crippled himself. ![]() More so than anyone else, Katsumi's fights and feats got really fucking nebulous. There is a small chance Katsumi holds that position but it isn't likely and I will explain why. Spot 10 is where things get open to a bit more debate. I don't care if you agree with my ordering of the top 9, I know you will agree with me that they are the top 9. ![]()
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